Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. Of course, you can now get .357 Magnum power in the same package, but the recoil and muzzle blast are intimidating enough that many who own the mini magnums stoke the chambers with +P .38 loads. I use Clays in .38s. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. May not be the 'best' for all of them, but I've used it for .32 H&R Mag, 9mm, .38 Spl, .357 Mag, 45 ACP, and .45 Colt all with decent acceptable results. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. No purchase necessary. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Get Guns.com offers and news!! Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. and 8 lb. The action was not as smooth as I would like and the trigger pull was much too heavy at 8-1/2 lbs. When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. The heavy 158-180 grain bullets are the .357 Magnum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. cast, but bullet is unstable and not 231,100% burnt at 1.85 inches of barrel length. But in those three disciplines, the .357s potential is going untapped, you could argue. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: When you want to go up to heavier loads in the mag cases try IMR4227 or 2400. . It takes me all day to do what I used to do all day - but I still enjoy doin' it! Some recommend 2400 powder. The benefits of this are twofold. particularly good practice ammunition and with 125 grain bullets shoot . Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. By FortuneCookie45LC. Jul 22, 2015. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. New Hampshire Fish & Game Department, State Agency: Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. I also want to reload .38's with it. This includes the majority of mainstream handgun rounds including the 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. For This is not John Waynes revolver it is a modern work of art! guys", but have not provided top accuracy in my .357 handguns. ", http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show58-SCW-results, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! bought commercially (in the 70s). Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. My Speer manual says that Magnum Primers need to be used with w296 and h110 has anyone loaded these powders with standard primers and if so was there any difference? Copyright 2004, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. W296 is slow burning and needs a case full to ensure complete ignition. If part of your plinking enjoyment . Handloading also lets you utilize a vast library of .38 Special loads, one of the .357s biggest perks. As most revolver cartridges fade further into obscurity every year, the .357 continues to have new life breathed into it by ammunition companies and gun manufacturers who recognize the demand for this venerable cartridge. Today, you can take your pick of outstanding hollowpoint or expanding-point bullets. For the most part, I use the same loads in .357 Magnum leverguns as I do in sixguns chambered for the same cartridge. I'd be happy with 1300 or 1400. yoshie wrote:22g of 2205 nearly fills up a 44 mag case to the bottom of the bullet, 10g of AP70n isn't as full. Also 231, which is a completely different type of powder and meters better. Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: full loads. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: Is it worth my effort in developing 357mag loads using this powder..wondering if it was to fast..I am using 158gr sierra JHP bullets. is 1235 fps and the ME is 535 ft. lbs. For a medium velocity load in .357 Magnum cases with 158-160 grain bullets at 1.58" OAL use these as minimum start loads and OK to increase a grain or so as needed to get best accuracy. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. . 2021. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. I'll admit they're a little stout, but still fun to shoot. If you want to download your .357 Magnum ammo 2400 is a better choice. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. with unavoidable grey area. $175.00. My ammo doesn't only go in S&W firearms, there are a few other brands that I have so, I have to watch what I reload. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). Unique is a good powder to start with. I want something that best suits a newbie to reloading. Deployed military should use stateside address. sufficiently flat for small game hunting. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. davestarbuck posted this 06 December 2010. An alternative is the Buffalo Bore 180-grain hard-cast. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. A Magnum primer will help get a complete burn with HP38/W231. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. July 31, 2021. Posts: 3,825. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. In the late 1970s, leverguns chambered in .357 Magnum began appearing. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! If I was starting out to load a magnum pistol, like .357, .41, .44, or T/C/Ruger-Only .45 Colt, I'D want Alliant 2400 to learn on. The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. (Cowboy Action) 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) 44-40 Win . Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. Every cowboy needs a revolver. Like Marc said, I'd want data specific to your bullet. They are all determined experimentally. In these, I like to load a 130 grain lead flat point bullet over a charge of 700X that shoots to point of aim. Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. back in the 1930s) should reach over 1500 f.p.s. +1 on Hellbents slant on Titegroup in the .357 . Contest open to U.S. residents only. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. Snuffy. bullet to a MV of 1352 fps. SWC+GC, 160 gr. You can get some rounds with wallop from a manufacturerbut itll cost you. were measured in a 6" S&W revolver barrel using Speer cases and I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. The reason I moved to Alliant Power Pro 300MP was I was impressed with what I read about it and have found it to be very clean burning, relatively low muzzle flash, accurate and can get a 150 to 250 more fps while still keeping well within the SAAMI 35,000 psi limit. * Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. I also wanted a better finish than the plain stained buttstock and forearm so I had Milt put a real finish on the wood. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. There certainly is no argument when using a .357 Magnum levergun. Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The .38 Special has a Max pressure of 17,000 PSI whereas the .357 Magnum can go as high as 35,000 PSI. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). Winchester Smokeless Ball Powder. But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. Actually, that propellant is "too fast" but a-ok for reduced power paper punching ammunition with good accuracy. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New at the best online prices at eBay! A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. Hodgdon - 700-X. Sounds like you used a standard primer. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Christian, Conservative American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. (Photo: Andy C). BIANCHI Speed Strips - Pair. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Not sure of your experience level , ya need to get some manuals and study up the bullet weights your gonna shoot. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. Hornady XTP HP's is Accurate Arms #9 powder. I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. Lead bullets are great for such high-volume shooting. . Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: I have H110 for my 357 Magnum hot loads however, not recommended for lead bullets due to needing to keep the velocity down. First time using lead cast bullets. Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. I would exclude H110 altogether. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Where can we push the limit of a compact but powerful cartridge for competitions sake? So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. Let me be the 1st to say that you can never go wrong with Unique. Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X . Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. Note: A full It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: unique seems to work for all my handgun loads. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. But, this isn't the best powder for 900 f/s loads. fps, and a maximum load of 17.2 grains of H110 will drive the same MV is 1360 fps and the ME is 575 ft. lbs. 2) Am I likely to shoot it more often than my .357s? Try this load out for yourself and after fixing up your sights, youll likely be impressed by the groups it can produce. Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. 5.5 to 5.8 grains of Titegroup always worked well for me with pretty much any jacketed or plated 158 gr. IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. Personally, it would never go into a semi auto that had a partially supported chamber, never. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for maximum loads Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. If you find your way down to Rod & Gun of New Bedford Sunday you can try some of my .38 loads. It's awful hard to beat a powder like 296. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. I'll load a few trips to the range worth and see how it goes. However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. 1.590 in. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. This powder has a low bulk density so it fills the case well to reduce free space in the same way as Trail Boss. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Federal Centerfire Primers. Being used to SD of 12 for precision rifle I was taken back to see SD in the 50's for some of 357 Mag loads. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than (I) Giveaway ends February 28, 2023. Hodgdon recommends lighter-than-usual powder charges for the 140 grain FTX. small game loads. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. Just remember, in .357 Magnum, some powders can be too fast. Lets just say midway tween low and high , In my opinion the K frames just aren't stout enuf for a steady diet of high pressure stuff. The Handgun Reloading Contest void where prohibited by law. Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. If that works for you, forge onward. You need a faster powder for the .38 and you do for the .357. Rottiejake said: I'm caught up with all my loads except .357 mag. check out the. With standard primers it's a little lower velocity (more like 925). As great as the .357 is, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. I get similar results with the same bullet and 4 to 4.5 grains of W231. Free shipping for many products! A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. 3) Would it be more efficient to just buy components for my .357 handloading? Figure 3. Sure. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . I have They show 2400 as the best powder to use for reloading the .357 Magnum cartridge. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .357 Magnum with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. California Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. So many options, so little experience! It has a steel core and will pierce an Hodgdon CFE Pistol is best suited for cartridges producing the middle range of power (non-magnum pistol loads in most calibers including 500 S&W). It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. Shellholders: Lee #1 flatnose hard cast bullet. Subscribe To GUNS Magazine. If it's a hunting load or full power defense load your after, a slower powder designed for magnums will give you more versatility. of TrailBoss), (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), (bullets seated deeper = higher pressures) (I dont recommend lead at over 900 Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's 16 gauge. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. found the 140-146 grain bullets to be a good all-around choice for use K-Mart Classics: Remingtons Nylon Rimfires Engineered To Last. 296 fan. of muzzle energy. For heavy loads, the Speer not in popularity or usefulness. . Several of these can also be used in rifle cartridges, so its good to have New. They list 4 gn of Unique will give 900 FPS with a 140gn bullet. Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP.